Titanic sub latest updates: US navy detected likely implosion of Titan submersible hours after it began mission – live

Titanic sub latest updates: US navy detected likely implosion of Titan submersible hours after it began mission – live

US navy detected an ‘anomaly’ that was likely the Titan’s implosion

The AP reports:

The Navy went back and analyzed its acoustic data after the Titan submersible was reported missing Sunday. That anomaly was ‘consistent with an implosion or explosion in the general vicinity of where the Titan submersible was operating when communications were lost,’ according to the senior Navy official. The official spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive acoustic detection system. The Navy passed on the information to the Coast Guard, which continued its search.

Filmmaker and underwater enthusiast James Cameron has told Reuters in a Zoom interview that his sources reported hearing a “loud bang” on Sunday, similar to the US Navy’s report that it heard an underwater “anomaly” near the wreck of the Titanic on Sunday.

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Cameron said he knew the Titan submersible was lost from the start, suspecting it imploded at the time the Titan’s support vessel lost communications one hour and 45 minutes into the mission.

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“We got confirmation within an hour that there had been a loud bang at the same time that the sub comms were lost. A loud bang on the hydrophone. Loss of transponder. Loss of comms. I knew what happened. The sub imploded,” Cameron said.

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He added that he told colleagues in an email on Monday, “We’ve lost some friends,” and, “It’s on the bottom in pieces right now.” The five who died mark the first deep-sea fatalities for the industry, Cameron said.

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  • Five crew members aboard the submersible Titan were probably killed instantly in a “catastrophic implosion” as it descended to the wreck of the Titanic two miles below the surface of the Atlantic Ocean, US Coast Guard officials said.

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  • A large debris field containing five major pieces of the vessel were spotted by a remotely operated vehicle (ROV) scouring the seabed near the Titanic wreck site 400 miles south of St John’s, Newfoundland, officials said. The debris was “consistent with the catastrophic loss of the pressure chamber”, they said.

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  • It is too early to tell exactly when the implosion occurred, officials said, noting that nothing was detected on sonar buoys deployed in the ocean in recent days.

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  • Those aboard the submersible were British adventurer Hamish Harding, 58; French veteran Titanic explorer Paul Henri Nargeolet, 77; British-Pakistani businessman Shahzada Dawood, 48, and his 19-year-old son Suleman; and 61-year-old American Stockton Rush, co-founder of OceanGate, the company that operated the lost sub.

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  • Officials could not confirm whether they will be able to recover the bodies of the crew members. The US Coast Guard will continue to investigate the site of the debris field, while vessels and personnel will be demobilised over the next 24 hours.

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  • The US navy detected an ‘anomaly’ that was likely the Titan’s implosion. The navy reportedly reviewed acoustic data after the submersible went missing and detected an acoustic anomaly that was consistent with an implosion.

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The AP reports:

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The Navy went back and analyzed its acoustic data after the Titan submersible was reported missing Sunday. That anomaly was ‘consistent with an implosion or explosion in the general vicinity of where the Titan submersible was operating when communications were lost,’ according to the senior Navy official. The official spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive acoustic detection system. The Navy passed on the information to the Coast Guard, which continued its search.

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The aunt of 19-year-old Suleman Dawood told NBC that her nephew was “terrified” of the expedition prior to embarking on it.

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Azmeh Dawood, the older sister of the Pakistani billionaire businessman Shahzada Dawood told the outlet that Suleman had told a relative that he “wasn’t very up for it” and felt “terrified” about the journey.

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“I am thinking of Suleman, who is 19, in there, just perhaps gasping for breath … It’s been crippling, to be honest,” Azmeh said.

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“I feel disbelief … It’s an unreal situation,” she said, adding, “I feel like I’ve been caught in a really bad film, with a countdown, but you didn’t know what you’re counting down to … I personally have found it kind of difficult to breathe thinking of them.”

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Azmeh also talked about her younger brother Shahzada who also died in the implosion, saying, “He was my baby brother … I held him up when he was born.”

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She added that her brother was “absolutely obsessed” with the Titanic from an early age and that he loved visiting museum exhibitions on the wreck.

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Titanic film director James Cameron who has made 33 dives to the wreck site has responded to the news of OceanGate Titan’s submersible imploding.

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In an interview with ABC, Cameron said:

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I’ve been down there many times … I know the wreck site very well … I understand the engineering problems associated with building this type of vehicle and all the safety protocols …

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This is a mature art and many people in the community were concerned about the sub … I’m struck by the similarity of the Titanic disaster itself, where the captain was repeatedly warned about ice ahead of his ship and yet he steamed at full speed into an ice field on a moonless night and many people died as a result.”

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‘Titanic’ director James Cameron on the ‘catastrophic implosion’ of Titan submersible: “I’m struck by the similarity of the Titanic disaster itself, where the captain was repeatedly warned about ice ahead of his ship and yet he steamed at full speed into an ice field.” pic.twitter.com/vO8JkCXS5f

— ABC News (@ABC) June 22, 2023

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  • Five crew members aboard the submersible Titan were probably killed instantly in a “catastrophic implosion” as it descended to the wreck of the Titanic two miles below the surface of the Atlantic Ocean, US Coast Guard officials said.

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  • A large debris field containing five major pieces of the vessel were spotted by a remotely operated vehicle (ROV) scouring the seabed near the Titanic wreck site 400 miles south of St John’s, Newfoundland, officials said. The debris was “consistent with the catastrophic loss of the pressure chamber”, they said.

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  • It is too early to tell exactly when the implosion occurred, officials said, noting that nothing was detected on sonar buoys deployed in the ocean in recent days.

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  • Those aboard the submersible were British adventurer Hamish Harding, 58; French veteran Titanic explorer Paul Henri Nargeoloet, 77; British-Pakistani businessman Shahzada Dawood, 48, and his 19-year-old son Suleman; and 61-year-old American Stockton Rush, co-founder of OceanGate, the company that operated the lost sub.

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  • Officials could not confirm whether they will be able to recover the bodies of the crew members. The US Coast Guard will continue to investigate the site of the debris field, while vessels and personnel will be demobilised over the next 24 hours.

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We have the latest info here at a glance:

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US Coast Guard officials said the next phase would be to make sure that the families of those crew members on board the Titan sub “have an understanding as fast as we can of what happened and begin to find some closure”.

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Teams will continue to investigate the site of the debris field, officials said.

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Rear Adm Mauger said there were nine vessels on the scene as well as medical personnel and other technicians.

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We will begin to demobilise personnel and vessels from the scene over the course of the next 24 hours. But we’re going to continue remote operations on the sea floor.

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He said he did not have a timeline for when the remote operations on the seafloor would be stopped.

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Asked if the sub could have collided with the Titanic, Carl Hartsville of the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution says the wreck lies approximately 1,600 feet from the Titanic.

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That area does not have any debris of Titanic, he says.

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It is a smooth bottom there. To my knowledge and anything I’ve seen there’s no Titanic wreckage in that area.

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The debris found of the Titan sub lies “200 plus metres” from the bow of the Titanic wreck, he says.

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It’s consistent with the location of last communication for an implosion in the water column. The size of the debris field is consistent with that implosion in the water column.

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Rear Adm John Mauger says there “doesn’t appear to be any connection” between the underwater noises detected in the search-and-rescue mission and the location on the seafloor.

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This was a “catastrophic implosion” of the vessel which would have “generated a significant… sound down there that the sonar buoys would have picked up”, he says.

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Paul Hankin, an undersea expert, says rescuers found “five different major pieces of debris that told us that it was the remains of the Titan”.

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The initial thing we found was the nose cone… then we found a large debris field. Within that large debris field, we found the front end bell of the pressure hull. That was the first indication that there was a catastrophic event.

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Shortly after, we found a second smaller debris field within that debris field. We found the other end of the press hull that…basically comprised of the totality of that pressure chamber…

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We will do our best to fully map out what’s down there.

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Rear Adm John Mauger, the First Coast Guard District commander says a remotely operated vehicle from Horizon Arctic discovered the tail cone of the Titan sub approximately 1,600 feet from the bow of the Titanic on the seafloor.

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The debris is “consistent with a catastrophic loss of the pressure chamber”, he says.

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Upon this determination, we immediately notified the families on behalf of the United States Coast Guard and the entire unified command. I offer my deepest condolences to the families.

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Oceangate have released a statement saying that they believe the passengers of the Titan submersible have “sadly been lost,” CNN and BBC are reporting.

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The statement reads:

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We now believe that our CEO Stockton Rush, Shahzada Dawood and his son Suleman Dawood, Hamish Harding, and Paul-Henri Nargeolet, have sadly been lost.

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A rescue expert has told Sky News that the debris found in the Titan search area was a “landing frame” and a “rear cover” of the missing vessel.

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David Mearns said he was part of a WhatsApp group involving The Explorers Club and that his information came from the president of the club.

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These claims have not been confirmed. More details could emerge in a US Coast Guard press conference scheduled for 3pm ET (7pm GMT).

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The US Coast Guard have said a debris field was discovered within the search area by a remotely operated vehicle (ROV) near the Titanic wreck.

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Experts within the unified command are evaluating the information, the Coast Guard said in a tweet.

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A debris field was discovered within the search area by an ROV near the Titanic. Experts within the unified command are evaluating the information. 1/2

— USCGNortheast (@USCGNortheast) June 22, 2023

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The family of British billionaire Hamish Harding, who is on board the missing Titan, has accused OceanGate of having taken “far too long” to report the sub’s disappearance.

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Communications between the submersible and the surface vessel, Polar Prince, were lost at about 9.45am local time on Sunday, 1 hour and 45 minutes after starting its descent to the Titanic wreck. But it was not until 5.40pm local time that the US Coast Guard was made aware.

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Kathleen Cosnett, a cousin of Harding, told the Telegraph:

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It’s very frightening. [It] took so long for them to get going to rescue [them], it’s far too long. I would have thought three hours would be the bare minimum.

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The co-founder of OceanGate, the company that operates the missing sub, has broken his silence to say he believes the five crew members on board Titan have “longer than what most people think”.

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Guillermo Söhnlein, who founded OceanGate with Stockton Rush, one of the passengers aboard the Titan, said he last spoke to Rush a couple of weeks before the expedition’s launch.

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In a statement to Insider, Sohnlein, who is no longer involved with the company but remains a minority shareholder, said:

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Today will be a critical day in this search and rescue mission, as the sub’s life support supplies are starting to run low.

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I’m certain that Stockton and the rest of the crew realized days ago that the best thing they can do to ensure their rescue is to extend the limits of those supplies by relaxing as much as possible. I firmly believe that the time window available for their rescue is longer than what most people think. I continue to hold out hope for my friend and the rest of the crew.

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He said he encouraged everyone to “remain hopeful” for getting the missing sub back safely and that he continued to “hold out hope” for his friend and the rest of the crew.

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Rescue teams are continuing to carry out “an active search and rescue operation” for the missing Titan submersible, US Coast Guard officials said.

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Rear Adm John Mauger, speaking to Sky News, said teams were making the most of the “favourable” weather conditions. He said:

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While we’re cognizant of the time, and we’ve factored in a lot of data and information into the search, this is still an active search and rescue at this point.

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We’re using the equipment that we have on at the bottom of the ROVS to expand our search capabilities.

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Asked when rescuers might consider the situation is “beyond all hope”, Mauger said “there is a time and place for that discussion” but that the focus of the unified command team was “on using the capability that we have now on site to locate the people and the submersible”.

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Rear Admiral John Mauger, First District Commander for the US Coast Guard, tells @JayneSeckerSky that they are grateful for all assistance in the search for the missing Titan sub

“We remain hopeful”https://t.co/4560YhOK6P

📺 Sky 501, Virgin 602, Freeview 233 and YouTube pic.twitter.com/7GmvloNX6E

— Sky News (@SkyNews) June 22, 2023

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Suleman Dawood, one of the five men missing on the submersible dive to visit the Titanic, has been identified as a university student in Glasgow.

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The University of Strathclyde confirmed that Dawood, 19, was one of its students with Strathclyde Business School, and had just completed his first year.

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“We are deeply concerned about Suleman, his father and the others involved in this incident,” a university spokesperson said.

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Our thoughts are with their families and loved ones and we continue to hope for a positive outcome.

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Dawood is the son of Shahzada Dawood, 48, a billionaire businessman who lives in Surbiton, south-west London, who is originally from Pakistan but now has British citizenship.

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Suleman Dawood has a sister, Alina, and his mother has been named as Christine. The family had been living in Canada for several weeks before the dive.

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Earlier this week a family statement described Suleman as a “big fan of science fiction literature and learning new things”, who was also keen on Rubik’s cubes and playing volleyball.

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He had recently graduated from ACS International School Cobham in Surrey.

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  • Two remotely operated vehicles have been deployed as part of the search effort

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  • According to US coast guard estimates, Titan’s 96 hours of breathable oxygen supplies are thought to be exhausted – although these are just estimates and much will depend on measure the passengers have taken to conserve air

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  • Experts say it’s still unclear whether the submersible is on the surface on the seabed, and warn “weeks of intense survey” may be required to locate it

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  • A British submariner and equipment from a UK firm will help the search for the missing submersible

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According to the US Coast Guard, two remotely operated vehicles have just been deployed in the search effort

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The French vessel L’Atalante has just deployed their ROV. #Titanic

— USCGNortheast (@USCGNortheast) June 22, 2023

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The Canadian vessel Horizon Arctic has deployed an ROV that has reached the sea floor and began its search for the missing sub. #Titanic

— USCGNortheast (@USCGNortheast) June 22, 2023

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Although calculations suggest Titan’s 96-hour supply of breathable air is about to run out, experts have emphasised that it is an imprecise estimate and could be extended if passengers have taken measures to conserve breathable air. It is also not known if they are still alive after the sub disappeared on Sunday morning.

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Frank Owen, a submarine search-and-rescue expert, said the oxygen supply figure was a useful “target” for searchers but is only based on a “nominal amount of consumption”.

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Owen said the diver on board the Titan was likely to be advising passengers to “do anything to reduce your metabolic levels so that you can actually extend this”.

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Rescuers have rushed more ships and vessels to the site of the disappearance, hoping underwater sounds they detected for a second straight day might help narrow their search in the urgent, international mission.

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But many obstacles still remain: from pinpointing the vessel’s location, to reaching it with rescue equipment, to bringing it to the surface – assuming it’s still intact. And all that has to happen before the passengers’ oxygen supply runs out. (Via AP)

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I’ve just been listening in to a very useful briefing from the Science Media Centre, in which the speakers were Prof Alistair Greig, professor of marine engineering at University College London, Dr Jamie Pringle, reader in Forensic Geosciences at Keele University and, Dr Rob Larter, a marine geophysicist with the British Antarctic Survey.

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• Asked about the huge size of the search area, Larter said: “We’ve all seen the reports of these sounds that have been detected, but the fact that the search areas still seems to be so large would seem to indicate that nobody thinks they have confidently been able to locate where those sounds are coming from.”

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Given the lack of information from the seabed, said Greig, “I’d say we’re still pretty much where we were on Monday really, in terms of the search I guess”.

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• Asked about how long it could take to bring the sub to the surface were it found, Greig said: “I don’t know how long it would take but in a normal operating scenario, I think it takes about two hours to get down to depth … and about two hours again [to come up].”

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• Asked about his assessment of the chances of a successful rescue mission, Greig said: “I think the key thing is that they can find it … but it’s not going to be instantaneous; every step takes time – this is the problem. And we’re running out of time.”

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Pringle said: “There’s always hope with these things but you know about the ‘golden first 24 hours’ – and we’re well past that stage. There’s always a chance – it’s never zero – but I think obviously in the long run, the longer the time that elapses, the lower the chances of success. That’s with anything from earthquake survival to searches. When it goes from a rescue to a recovery, I guess the coastguards will make that choice. But that will happen at some point.”

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Larter said: “It’s just a desperate situation. It’s kind of unimaginable if people are alive, trapped in a submersible with oxygen supplies running down. It doesn’t bear thinking about. An objective assessment of where things are at the moment? It doesn’t look good. But I think as Jamie said, you have to try to stay optimistic for as long as possible.”

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• Asked how long it could take to find Titan, Larter said: “How long is a piece of string? To find an object of this size in 3,800-metre water depth, it potentially could take weeks of intense survey. It very much depends on how tightly the area that has to be searched is defined.”

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• Asked whether the disappearance of Titan could spell the end of deep sea tourism, Larter said: “I think when people look at it afterwards, this will no doubt trigger an investigation and I think this may prove to be a key moment in thinking about how such activities are regulated in the future. It’s clear from the reports I’ve read that there is a lack of regulation governing what people can put in the water.”

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Greig added: “I think there are two issues here: there’s the regulation issue we’ve just heard about but there’s also the potential customer base – it may put people off wanting to pay to go on these trips.”

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• Asked if we were any closer to knowing what had gone wrong, Greig said: “I think the only thing we know that went wrong is that they lost communications. Beyond that, we don’t know. We’re not even sure yet whether it’s on the surface or the seabed, which is complicating the search.”

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Hello and welcome to the Guardian’s live coverage of the search for the submersible vessel Titan that went missing during a voyage to the wreck of the Titanic with five people onboard.

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The search for the OceanGate Expeditions tourist submersible is entering its fourth day after the vessel was reported overdue on Sunday evening about 435 miles south of St John’s, Newfoundland.

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Officials have still said they are hopeful of a rescue despite growing concerns the oxygen supply on board is becoming dangerously low. Equipment from the US, Canada, the UK and France has been brought in to help find the vessel.

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Experts have said the search remains a technically challenging task because of the potential for bad weather and the difficulty in locating a small vessel in a vast ocean. So far the search has concentrated around an area where sounds were detected repeating at 30-minute intervals but authorities have said they have been unable to confirm the origin of these sounds.

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As of Wednesday night local time remotely operated deep-sea vehicles (ROV), capable of operating down to depths of 6km, were heading to the area to join the search and the US Navy is also sending a heavy-lifting system called Fadoss.

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It is understood the vessel had enough oxygen on board for 96 hours, though the true extent of its supply depends on several various including whether the vessel remains powered, the activity of those on board and whether they have remained calm and are able to control their breathing.

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Those onboard Titan are believed to be British billionaire Hamish Harding, 58; Pakistani-born businessman Shahzada Dawood, 48, with his 19-year-old son Suleman, who are both British citizens; French explorer Paul-Henri Nargeolet, 77; and Stockton Rush, founder and CEO of OceanGate Expeditions.

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We’ll bring you updates on the search as they happen.

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The Reuters report on the potential legal situation facing OceanGate going forward also highlights some interesting quirks about how maritime law works in these situations.

For instance, the report notes that under maritime law, owners of vessels involved in an accident may ask a court in the US to limit damages claims by family members to the current value of the vessel.

Since the Titan was destroyed, Reuters notes, “that would be zero”.

But to do this, OceanGate would need to prove it had no knowledge of potential defects with the submersible and would carry the burden of proof, which is a hard standard to meet.

Another maritime law, the Death on the High Seas Act, limits the amount people who were financially dependent on another who died in a naval accident to only a portion of their future earnings. Plaintiffs also cannot recover losses for pain and suffering.

Amazon has begun to clear bad-taste reviews of the game controller used to steer the lost Titan sub.

Users began posting black-humour reviews of the controller to Amazon after news about the missing sub broke including images showing a Logitech F710 game controller used to control the vessel.

It is not unusual for game controllers to be used to pilot drones, ROVs, and sometimes vessels but users have posted reviews critical about its role in steering submarines.

Now the fate of the sub is known, the BBC reports that Amazon has begun deleting these reviews as they do not comply with community guidelines.

Tributes have poured in for the five people who are now believed to have been instantly killed in a “catastrophic implosion” of the Titan submersible during its dive to the Titanic.

On Thursday, after days of aerial and underwater searches, a robotic diving vehicle deployed from a Canadian ship discovered a debris field from the submersible Titan on the seabed 1,600 feet (488 metres) from the bow of the Titanic.

Five major fragments of the 22-foot (6.7-metre) Titan were located in the debris field left from its disintegration, including the vessel’s tail cone and two sections of the pressure hull, Coast Guard officials said.

“The debris field here is consistent with a catastrophic implosion of the vehicle,” Rear Admiral John Mauger of the US coast guard said.

The Titan, operated by the US-based company OceanGate Expeditions, had been missing since it lost contact with its surface support ship on Sunday morning about an hour and 45 minutes into what should have been a two-hour dive to the world’s most famous shipwreck.

The White House said the loved ones of the five men had endured a “harrowing ordeal” over the past week.

For more on the reactions to this grim tragedy, read the full report by Guardian International’s site editor Graham Russell.

John Nathanial Paschall, stepson of famed French explorer Paul-Henri Nargeolet says he “thought nothing of it” in the lead up to the trip owing to his step-father’s past experience visiting the wreck of the Titanic.

Speaking to MSNBC, Paschall said he and other families have been shocked by the news of the fate of the Titan.

We’ve been living a nightmare this week. I think that goes for all the families. We can speak about PH but it has been truly is a nightmare of an experience. And I hope no one ever has to go through it again.

Paschall remembered his Nargeolet as a “really great step-father to me” with a big heart, a great sense of humour and a love of pranks.

There are so many ways I was just blown away by his love and care for me.

The ocean, Paschall said, was his step-father’s “home away from home”.

It was so cool. He talked about it so much, I almost became numb to it, in a way because of how much he talked about it. Oh, another expedition you get to go on. That’s so cool. But he was just such an inspiration in terms of the amount of work he put in and his fearlessness with everything.

His big question for OceanGate however was: Were the safety procedures followed as close as possible? Was anything going on?

James Cameron says his sources heard a ‘loud bang’ too

Filmmaker and underwater enthusiast James Cameron has told Reuters in a Zoom interview that his sources reported hearing a “loud bang” on Sunday, similar to the US Navy’s report that it heard an underwater “anomaly” near the wreck of the Titanic on Sunday.

Cameron said he knew the Titan submersible was lost from the start, suspecting it imploded at the time the Titan’s support vessel lost communications one hour and 45 minutes into the mission.

“We got confirmation within an hour that there had been a loud bang at the same time that the sub comms were lost. A loud bang on the hydrophone. Loss of transponder. Loss of comms. I knew what happened. The sub imploded,” Cameron said.

He added that he told colleagues in an email on Monday, “We’ve lost some friends,” and, “It’s on the bottom in pieces right now.” The five who died mark the first deep-sea fatalities for the industry, Cameron said.

Former US President Barrack Obama has contrasted the media attention on the Titan sub with that given to the loss of 700 asylum seekers who died in near Pylos, Greece.

Obama was speaking at an event with the Stavros Niarchos Foundation where he pointed out the disparity.

You think about what’s happening this week. there’s a potential tragedy unfolding with a submarine that is getting, you know ,minute to minute coverage, all around the world And it’s understandable because we all want and pray for those folks to be rescued.

But the fact that’s got more attention than 700 people who sank is –- that’s an untenable situation.

Impressive remarks from @BarackObama today at @SNForg as he courageously draws a parallel between the media’s focus on the #TitanicSubmarine and the tragic loss of approximately 700 asylum seekers in a recent shipwreck near #Pylos | #RefugeeWeek #Titanic pic.twitter.com/6cIqqJ8XAk

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The family of Pakistani-born businessman Shahzada Dawood and his 19-year-old son Suleman said they were “truly grateful” to all those involved in the rescue efforts.

“Their untiring efforts were a source of strength for us,” said the statement from Hussain and Kulsum Dawood, the parents of Shahzada Dawood.

The immense love and support we receive continues to help us to endure this unimaginable loss.

Details of their final rites will be announced soon, they said. Condolences came from Pakistan’s foreign ministry, government officials and friends, with TV stations halting their routine broadcasts to share the news about Dawood, who the vice-chair of the country’s largest conglomerate, Engro Corporation, and his son.

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Salman Sufi, an adviser to Prime Minister Shahbaz Sharif, tweeted:

Very sad and unfortunate news. Prayers for the families of deceased. Mr Dawood and family are in our prayers.

In a statement, Engro Corporation said:

With heavy hearts and great sadness, we grieve the loss of our vice-chairman, Shahzada Dawood, and his beloved son, Suleman Dawood.

Film director James Cameron had long-held safety concerns over the design of the Titan submersible which used both titanium and carbon fibre.

He is part of the small and close-knit submersible community, or Manned Underwater Vehicle (MUV) industry. When he heard, as many in the industry had shared, that OceanGate Inc was making a deep-sea submersible with a composite carbon fiber and titanium hull, Cameron said he was skeptical.

I thought it was a horrible idea. I wish I’d spoken up, but I assumed somebody was smarter than me, you know, because I never experimented with that technology, but it just sounded bad on its face.

The cause of the Titan’s implosion has not been determined, but Cameron presumes the critics were correct in warning that a carbon fiber and titanium hull would enable delamination and microscopic water ingress, leading to progressive failure over time.

Cameron said that he believed as early as Monday that there had been a catastrophic failure on the submersible and told colleagues in an email that “We’ve lost some friends” and the sub is “on the bottom in pieces right now”.

The five who died mark the first deep-sea fatalities for the industry, Cameron said. He added that the industry standard is to make pressure hulls out of contiguous materials such as steel, titanium, ceramic or acrylic, which are better for conducting tests.

We celebrate innovation, right? But you shouldn’t be using an experimental vehicle for paying passengers that aren’t themselves deep ocean engineers.

Cameron said both the Titanic and the Titan tragedies were preceded by unheeded warnings. In the Titanic’s case, the captain sped across the Atlantic on a moonless night despite being told about icebergs.

Here were are again. And at the same place. Now there’s one wreck lying next to the other wreck for the same damn reason.

Reuters

The family of Paul-Henri Nargeolet have also released a statement following the news describing French dive expert as an “extraordinary father and husband”.

The New York Times reports that the family thanked those involved in the search and rescue operation and gave their condolences to the family’s of the other men who died:

He is a man who will be remembered as one of the greatest deep-sea explorers in modern history. When you think of the Titanic and all we know about the ship today, you will think of Paul-Henri Nargeolet and his legendary work.

But what we will remember him most for is his big heart, his incredible sense of humor and how much he loved his family. We will miss him today and every day for the rest of our lives.”

The Dawood family have released a statement after news of the fate of the Titan broke. Shahzada Dawood, 48 and his son Suleman, 19 were on board.

Here is the full statement as reported by the BBC:

Our thoughts are with the victims of this tragedy, one which has been followed around the world.

As with any tragedy of this magnitude, it brings out the best and worst in people.

Some go out of their way to contribute and support, others use these moments for personal gains. How one behaves in such circumstances reveals more about their own character than anything else.

The family remains overwhelmed with the love and support that it has received and is grateful to the those who showcased the best in humanity.

Shahzada Dawood and his son Suleman.
Shahzada Dawood and his son Suleman. Photograph: DAWOOD HERCULES CORPORATION/AFP/Getty Images

The fate of the five people onboard the Titan has been covered by the British newspapers.

The Times of London featured photos of the five victims on its front page:

THE TIMES: Mortgage misery for millions #TomorrowsPapersToday pic.twitter.com/uuaFQBSh69

— Neil Henderson (@hendopolis) June 22, 2023n”,”url”:”https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1671998390312337409?s=20″,”id”:”1671998390312337409″,”hasMedia”:false,”role”:”inline”,”isThirdPartyTracking”:false,”source”:”Twitter”,”elementId”:”2743a4ec-8d70-48fd-a13f-a1e1010e8315″}}”>

The Mirror said they were “lost to the deep”:

MIRROR: Lost to the deep #TomorrowsPapersToday pic.twitter.com/Uw5Ob4UOi5

— Neil Henderson (@hendopolis) June 22, 2023n”,”url”:”https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1671997905392082949?s=20″,”id”:”1671997905392082949″,”hasMedia”:false,”role”:”inline”,”isThirdPartyTracking”:false,”source”:”Twitter”,”elementId”:”3032022a-5aab-4eac-ac2a-51242919f98e”}}”>

The Daily Mail’s headline said “The Titanic claims five more lives”:

DAILY MAIL: The Titanic claims five more lives #TomorrowsPapersToday pic.twitter.com/wdn5DfeOE0

— Neil Henderson (@hendopolis) June 22, 2023n”,”url”:”https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1671995694305902592?s=20″,”id”:”1671995694305902592″,”hasMedia”:false,”role”:”inline”,”isThirdPartyTracking”:false,”source”:”Twitter”,”elementId”:”16589362-1218-415e-b8d1-b26642665e0a”}}”>

The Independent said “Sub search ends in tragedy”:

INDEPENDENT DIGITAL: Sub search ends in tragedy #TomorrowsPapersToday pic.twitter.com/JxE6d0dSRM

— Neil Henderson (@hendopolis) June 22, 2023n”,”url”:”https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1671985223939104770?s=20″,”id”:”1671985223939104770″,”hasMedia”:false,”role”:”inline”,”isThirdPartyTracking”:false,”source”:”Twitter”,”elementId”:”273ffa99-a7d1-4ca5-8ae5-16d2fb23115c”}}”>

The company that owns the salvage rights to the Titanic shipwreck, is mourning the loss of Titanic expert Paul-Henri Nargeolet, who was among five people killed aboard the Titan submersible when it imploded this week.

In a statement on Thursday the company described Nargeolet — known as “PH” and a long-term employee of the company, RMS Titanic Inc – as an “inspirational leader”.

The maritime world has lost an iconic and inspirational leader in deep-sea exploration, and we have lost a dear and treasured friend.

Nargeolet’s father was previously its CEO.

Friend and former colleague Matthew Tulloch said Nargeolet loved his work from the time they collaborated in the 1990s up until Nargeolet’s death.

I never got the impression that he was looking forward to retirement. You sort of think of people as they retire, then they can go on and do things that they love to do. This was exactly that for him — I can’t think of anything that I’m aware of that he would enjoy doing more than traveling around and sharing information and his experiences with people.

Here’s what we know

  • Five crew members aboard the submersible Titan were probably killed instantly in a “catastrophic implosion” as it descended to the wreck of the Titanic two miles below the surface of the Atlantic Ocean, US Coast Guard officials said.

  • A large debris field containing five major pieces of the vessel were spotted by a remotely operated vehicle (ROV) scouring the seabed near the Titanic wreck site 400 miles south of St John’s, Newfoundland, officials said. The debris was “consistent with the catastrophic loss of the pressure chamber”, they said.

  • It is too early to tell exactly when the implosion occurred, officials said, noting that nothing was detected on sonar buoys deployed in the ocean in recent days.

  • Those aboard the submersible were British adventurer Hamish Harding, 58; French veteran Titanic explorer Paul Henri Nargeolet, 77; British-Pakistani businessman Shahzada Dawood, 48, and his 19-year-old son Suleman; and 61-year-old American Stockton Rush, co-founder of OceanGate, the company that operated the lost sub.

  • Officials could not confirm whether they will be able to recover the bodies of the crew members. The US Coast Guard will continue to investigate the site of the debris field, while vessels and personnel will be demobilised over the next 24 hours.

  • The US navy detected an ‘anomaly’ that was likely the Titan’s implosion. The navy reportedly reviewed acoustic data after the submersible went missing and detected an acoustic anomaly that was consistent with an implosion.

According to Reuters, the liability waivers signed by passengers aboard the Titan may not shield OceanGate from lawsuits.

Reuters reports:

Waivers are not always ironclad, and it is not uncommon for judges to reject them if there is evidence of gross negligence or hazards that were not fully disclosed. “If there were aspects of the design or construction of this vessel that were kept from the passengers or it was knowingly operated despite information that it was not suitable for this dive, that would absolutely go against the validity of the waiver,” said personal injury attorney and maritime law expert Matthew D Shaffer, who is based in Texas. OceanGate could argue it was not grossly negligent and that the waivers apply because they fully described the dangers inherent in plumbing the deepest reaches of the ocean in a submersible the size of a minivan.

The degree of any potential negligence and how that might impact the applicability of the waivers will depend on the causes of the disaster, which are still under investigation.

“There are so many different examples of what families might still have claims for despite the waivers, but until we know the cause we can’t determine whether the waivers apply,” said personal injury lawyer Joseph Low of California.

US navy detected an ‘anomaly’ that was likely the Titan’s implosion

The AP reports:

The Navy went back and analyzed its acoustic data after the Titan submersible was reported missing Sunday. That anomaly was ‘consistent with an implosion or explosion in the general vicinity of where the Titan submersible was operating when communications were lost,’ according to the senior Navy official. The official spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive acoustic detection system. The Navy passed on the information to the Coast Guard, which continued its search.

The Associated Press and CBS have confirmed the Wall Street Journal’s reporting that the US navy detected the submersible’s implosion.

The Guardian has yet to confirm. Stay tuned for more …

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